Ep 76 – MI For Burnout & Compassion Fatigue
Ep 76 – MI For Burnout & Compassion Fatigue
Glenn Hinds Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Debra Collins, MA, LMFT to discuss MI as a way to reduce burnout and compassion fatigue. Debra has extensive experience in clinical practice, supervision and program management. She has been a program manager/clinical director in community-based clinics and has provided direct service, behavioral health consultation, program development, training, and supervision/coaching for a wide variety of social service, addiction and criminal justice settings.
Throughout her career Debra has organized and participated in Community Response Teams when communities have been faced with natural disasters, violent crimes, or other catastrophic events. She is an active member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) serving on the Reinstatement Committee and has presented at conferences, grand rounds, and panel discussions.
She is currently exploring how the Spirit of MI can support providers in reducing their risk of burnout and compassion fatigue and how the practice of MI might also be useful in helping providers explore their own ambivalence in utilizing self-care strategies.
Episode Index:
Motivational Interviewing for burnout and compassion fatigue
Debra Collins explores how Motivational Interviewing can support practitioners experiencing burnout and compassion fatigue. She considers how the relational spirit of MI may help helpers notice their own needs, explore ambivalence about self-care and reconnect with the relationships at the heart of their work.
The conversation includes Ask-Offer-Ask, creativity, wellness and taking better care of ourselves. It also connects practitioner wellbeing with the Spirit of Motivational Interviewing, Compassion and Information Exchange.
In this episode
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
4:00 – Debra’s introduction and early MI story
15:40 – Burnout and compassion fatigue
19:30 – Where does the relationship go?
25:00 – How the MI spirit helps the helper
32:15 – Ask-Offer-Ask
39:00 – Taking better care of ourselves
51:48 – Being a “provider”
1:00:00 – Wondering how creativity intersects with wellness
1:05:14 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
- Website: www.debracollinsconsulting.com
- Resources Mentioned :
- Trauma Stewardship (2007). Authors: Laura van Dernoot Lipsky, Connie Burk
- https://traumastewardship.com/
- Amishi Jha – Peak Mind https://amishi.com/
- Compassionomics Authors: Stephen Trzeciak, MD, MPH Anthony Mazzarelli, MD, JD, MBE https://www.compassionomics.com/
- Elizabeth Lesser https://www.facebook.com/ElizLesser/posts/739429870871482/?paipv=0&eav=AfbgpipK81xDeWhuBA8uX0WqQTCX7bChyB2ZVK8HG7J_gw697qCjMBtZzZ7otQCKzUk&_rdr
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