Denise Ernst, Ph.D. join Glenn & Sebastian to discuss the importance of coding in MI research and teaching. Denise is a psychologist and MI trainer and consultant. She is part of the research team that developed the Motivational Interviewing Skill Code (MISC) and the Motivational Interviewing Treatment Integrity Coding system. (MITI). She is an adjunct professor at the Portland State School of Social Work. Denise leads an international team of coders that provides MI coding for the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, research and implementation efforts, and practitioner skill development.
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
04:23 – Denise’s early MI story
08:00 – Nurturing the development of MI
12:30 – Why is coding important?
19:50 – The MITI: Treatment integrity and learning enrichment
26:20 – Softening sustain talk
29:10 – What to start paying attention to as a new learner
34:00 – What have we learned about MI because of the MITI?
39:50 – Coding with audio vs a transcript
43:00 – Voice intonation when using reflections
45:30 – Open vs closed questions and the importance of what a question is asking for
49:10 – Simple and complex affirmations
58:30 – Denise’s retirement and passing the MITI on
63:01 – End of episode
Meta-analysis mentioned in episode: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6310665/
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