Therapeutic Humor & MI

Ep 63 – Therapeutic Humor Part II

Therapeutic Humor – Part II

Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Mallori DeSalle, MA, LMHC, NCC, CMHC, MATS, CPS, CHP and Lodge McCammon, PhD Therapeutic Humour & MIon the podcast to discuss therapeutic humor (Listen to episode 21 with Mallori for part I on this topic). Mallori is a licensed mental health counselor, an internationally certified prevention specialist, motivational interviewing trainer and a certified humor professional. As a speaker and trainer, she has sparked curiosity in both the young and young-at-heart. Her passion for creating a lasting impact led her to the public health field and for the past 15 years she has worked at Prevention Insights, a center within the School of Public Health at Indiana University, Bloomington.  Mallori works with people all over the world. She served on the Board of Directors for the Association for Applied and Therapeutic Humor and in 2021 became a TEDx speaker. Her credentials don’t impress her family, but occasionally her corny jokes do make them laugh. 

Dr. Lodge McCammon is a therapeutic humorist, instructional designer, author, musician, and international education consultant Therapeutic Humour & MIwho provides professional services, including keynote speeches, workshops, curriculum development, and a variety of training programs. He works with school districts, universities, nonprofits, and businesses (e.g., Palm Beach Schools, University of the West Indies, Discovery Education, Microsoft, Amazon, The Coca-Cola Company). Most recently, Lodge facilitated a month of therapeutic humor for the Nourished Teachers Community, which is a Facebook-funded initiative focused on helping educators cope with work stress and avoid burnout. He uses a program that he designed called “Laugh It Off!” to help his clients transform their daily frustrations into humor.

Episode index:

   00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

   03:39 – Lodge’s introduction and how he and Mallori came to work together 

   09:00 – Evoking with humor

   13:00 – What is humor?

   17:00 – An invitation to see a situation in a new way

   26:00 – Absurdity training

   28:10 – Renaming exercise

   34:45 – Finding the absurd from an expected response

   40:52 – “I am now ___ years old”

   48:25 – The portability of therapeutic humor

   54:40 – How to introduce a humorous intervention with permission

1:01:10 – Future trainings and applying therapeutic humor with couples 

1:05:20 – Seb’s story applying therapeutic humor in group therapy with adolescents 

1:11.21 – End of episode

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