Ep 16 – Motivational Interviewing in Leadership and Organisations (MILO)
Ep 16 – Motivational Interviewing in Leadership and Organisations (MILO)
Motivational Interviewing in leadership and organisations

How can Motivational Interviewing support effective leadership and organisational change? In Episode 16 of Talking to Change, Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan talk with Fredrik Eliasson about Motivational Interviewing in leadership, workplace relationships and organisational development.
Fredrik is a social worker with more than 20 years’ experience in management and organisations. His work includes leadership and organisational development, MI training and project management at the research and development department of the Swedish National Board of Institutional Care (SiS). He is also a co-founder of MI in Leadership and Organisations (MILO).
The episode examines what it means to use MI as a way of leading rather than simply as a technique for individual conversations. Fredrik discusses relationship building, psychological safety, workplace culture and how leaders can create conditions in which people feel able to contribute, learn and consider change.
The discussion also explores ethics, equipoise and affirmations within strengths-based leadership. These themes connect with Partnership in Motivational Interviewing and the wider Spirit of MI, particularly when leaders want to influence change without relying on authority or persuasion alone.
In this episode
- 0:00 – Opening and introduction
- 2:45 – Fredrik’s early MI story and relationship building
- 10:00 – MI as “a way of doing the work that I’m doing”
- 23:00 – Shifting workplace culture
- 30:00 – Psychological safety in the workplace
- 45:20 – Ethics and equipoise
- 51:00 – Psychological safety as a foundation for change
- 58:00 – Affirmations in strengths-based leadership
- 1:00:00 – Research on engagement in the workplace
- 1:04:00 – Closing and contact information
- 1:06:14 – End of recording
Links and contact information
- Email: fredrik_eliasson@icloud.com
- MILO website: http://www.miinleadershipandorganizations.com/
- Amy Edmonds on Psychological Safety:
Listen to Episode 16
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