Ep 35 – Experiential Motivational Interviewing
Ep 35 – Experiential Motivational Interviewing
Glenn Hinds What happens when Motivational Interviewing is combined with experiential learning? In Episode 35 of Talking to Change, Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan talk with Matt McKenzie about Experiential Motivational Interviewing and the use of action, metaphor and creative exercises to deepen conversations about change.
Matt is a licensed professional counsellor, a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and a certified experiential specialist. His work has brought experiential learning and MI together in substance use treatment, education, consultancy and training. He co-authored Experiential Motivational Interviewing: An Action-Oriented Way of Being with Marc Pimsler.
Experiential Motivational Interviewing
Matt explores how experiential learning can complement Motivational Interviewing by creating opportunities for people to encounter their own thoughts, values and emotions through action, metaphor and creative exercises. The emphasis is not on adding techniques for their own sake, but on using experience to deepen engagement and make MI more personally meaningful.
The conversation considers art, metaphor, vulnerability, resistance and compassion fatigue in helpers. These themes connect with the Spirit of Motivational Interviewing, Reflective Listening and Compassion.
In this episode
- 0:00 – Opening and introduction
- 2:30 – Matt’s introduction and early MI story
- 8:45 – Experiential practices: “We don’t laugh with our enemies”
- 15:40 – Experiential practices as a precursor to MI
- 20:15 – The “carpet tiles” exercise
- 28:00 – “Life’s blueprint”: MI Spirit through art, metaphor and core skills
- 31:30 – Healing as a creative act
- 36:15 – Resistance as a fear of knowing
- 51:40 – Meeting vulnerability with kindness
- 53:20 – Matt’s work on compassion fatigue in helpers
- 1:01:02 – End of recording
Links and contact information
- Email: mckenzie@mckenziestrategies.com
- Twitter: @McKenzieMINTie
- Website: mckenziestrategies.com
- Book details: https://he.kendallhunt.com/product/experiential-motivational-interviewing-action-oriented-way-being
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